Head to head · Row Crop

Allis Chalmers 8050 vs John Deere 6165J

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Allis ChalmersModel A

Allis Chalmers 8050

Row Crop

power
169 hp
displacement
426 ci
Cylinders
6
Forward gears
20
Full 8050 specs
John Deere 6165J Tractor
John DeereModel B

John Deere 6165J

Utility

power
165 hp
displacement
414 ci
Cylinders
6
Forward gears
16
Full 6165J specs
Allis ChalmersAllis Chalmers 8050
vs
John DeereJohn Deere 6165J

How they compare

Headline specs vs. the whole Row Crop

n = 1,140–1,417

Engine Power

▲ 8050 higher · +4 hp (+2%)
8050169 hp
6165J165 hp
Median Row Crop Tractor138 hp

8050 is in the 66th percentile; 6165J is in the 65th · 1,206 models

Engine Displacement

▲ 8050 higher · +12 ci (+3%)
8050426 ci
6165J414 ci
Median Row Crop Tractor391 ci

8050 is in the 72nd percentile; 6165J is in the 69th · 1,409 models

Cylinders

= Effectively tied
80506
6165J6
Median Row Crop Tractor6

8050 is in the 50th percentile; 6165J is in the 50th · 1,417 models

Forward Gears

▲ 8050 higher · +4 (+25%)
805020
6165J16
Median Row Crop Tractor16

8050 is in the 70th percentile; 6165J is in the 50th · 1,200 models

8050 (A)6165J (B)Median Row Crop Tractor

Full comparison

Every spec, side by side

General Information

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersJohn Deere—
Model80506165J—
CategoryRow CropUtility—

Engine

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersJohn Deere—
Model670I6068 PowerTech—
Power Output169hp165hp▲ 8050+4 hp · +2%
Rated RPM2,300RPM2,100RPM▲ 8050+200 RPM · +10%
Cylinders66Same
Displacement426ci414ci▲ 8050+12 ci · +3%
Bore4.3in4.2in▲ 8050+0.1 in · +2%
Stroke5in5inSame

Transmission

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
TypePartial power shiftPartial power shiftSame

Dimensions & Weight

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
Length187in213in▲ 6165J+26 in · +14%
Width95.5inNot recorded—
Height113in115in▲ 6165J+2 in · +2%
Operating Weight15,305lb15,190lb▲ 8050+115 lb · <1%

Hydraulics

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
System TypeClosed-center load-sensitiveClosed center pressure-flow compensated (PFC)—
Steering TypeHydrostatic powerPower steering—

Power Take-off (PTO)

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
TypeIndependentNot recorded—
Speed 11,000rpmNot recorded—
Speed 2540rpmNot recorded—
Speed 31,000rpmNot recorded—

Hitch & Towing

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
Hitch TypeThree-Point HitchNot recorded—
Hitch CategoryIII/IICategory 3—
Hitch PositionRearRearSame
Hitch Capacity6,680lbNot recorded—

Chassis & Drive

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
Chassis Type4x2 2WD4x4 MFWD 4WD—
Drive Type2WD4WD—
Steering TypeHydrostatic powerPower steering—
Brake TypeDifferential hydraulic wet discsNot recorded—

Electrical

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
Starter TypeElectric12-volt—

Capacities

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
Coolant8galNot recorded—

Operator Station

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050John Deere 6165JDifference
TypeAcousta CabNot recorded—

Category context

Both models against the field

Engine Power

median 138 hp
A · 66th percentile (169 hp)B · 65th percentile (165 hp)

Engine Displacement

median 391 ci
A · 72nd percentile (426 ci)B · 69th percentile (414 ci)

Cylinders

median 6
A · 50th percentile (6)B · 50th percentile (6)

Forward Gears

median 16
A · 70th percentile (20)B · 50th percentile (16)

Operating Weight

median 12,307 lb
A · 68th percentile (15,305 lb)B · 67th percentile (15,190 lb)
A · 8050B · 6165JMedian Row Crop Tractor
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