Head to head · Row Crop

Allis Chalmers 8050 vs New Holland TM165

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Allis ChalmersModel A

Allis Chalmers 8050

Row Crop

power
169 hp
displacement
426 ci
Cylinders
6
Forward gears
20
Full 8050 specs
New Holland TM165 Tractor
New HollandModel B

New Holland TM165

Row Crop

power
165 hp
displacement
456 ci
Cylinders
6
Forward gears
18
Full TM165 specs
Allis ChalmersAllis Chalmers 8050
vs
New HollandNew Holland TM165

How they compare

Headline specs vs. the whole Row Crop

n = 279–1,417

Engine Power

▲ 8050 higher · +4 hp (+2%)
8050169 hp
TM165165 hp
Median Row Crop Tractor138 hp

8050 is in the 66th percentile; TM165 is in the 65th · 1,206 models

Engine Displacement

▲ TM165 higher · +30 ci (+7%)
8050426 ci
TM165456 ci
Median Row Crop Tractor391 ci

8050 is in the 72nd percentile; TM165 is in the 80th · 1,409 models

Cylinders

= Effectively tied
80506
TM1656
Median Row Crop Tractor6

8050 is in the 50th percentile; TM165 is in the 50th · 1,417 models

Forward Gears

▲ 8050 higher · +2 (+11%)
805020
TM16518
Median Row Crop Tractor16

8050 is in the 70th percentile; TM165 is in the 61st · 1,200 models

8050 (A)TM165 (B)Median Row Crop Tractor

Full comparison

Every spec, side by side

General Information

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersNew Holland—
Model8050TM165—
CategoryRow CropRow CropSame

Engine

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersNew Holland—
Model670INot recorded—
Power Output169hp165hp▲ 8050+4 hp · +2%
Rated RPM2,300RPM2,300RPMSame
Cylinders66Same
Displacement426ci456ci▲ TM165+30 ci · +7%
Bore4.3in4.4in▲ TM165+0.1 in · +2%
Stroke5in5inSame

Transmission

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
TypePartial power shiftSelective gear fixed ratio with partial (6) range operator controlled powershift—

Dimensions & Weight

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
Length187inNot recorded—
Width95.5in79.2in▲ 8050+16.3 in · +21%
Height113inNot recorded—
Operating Weight15,305lb13,845lb▲ 8050+1,460 lb · +11%

Hydraulics

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
System TypeClosed-center load-sensitiveClosed center load sensing (CCLS)—
Pump Flow CapacityNot recorded32.9gpm—
PressureNot recorded2,465psi—
Steering TypeHydrostatic powerPower—

Power Take-off (PTO)

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
TypeIndependentNot recorded—
Speed 11,000rpmNot recorded—
Speed 2540rpmNot recorded—
Speed 31,000rpmNot recorded—

Tires

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
Front Tire SizeNot recorded16.9R28—
Rear Tire SizeNot recorded20.8R38—

Hitch & Towing

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
Hitch TypeThree-Point HitchThree-Point HitchSame
Hitch CategoryIII/IIIII/IISame
Hitch PositionRearRearSame
Hitch Capacity6,680lb8,455lb▲ TM165+1,775 lb · +27%

Chassis & Drive

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
Chassis Type4x2 2WD4x4 MFWD 4WD—
Drive Type2WD4WD (front wheel assist)—
Steering TypeHydrostatic powerPower—
Brake TypeDifferential hydraulic wet discsNot recorded—

Electrical

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
Battery VoltageNot recorded12V—
Starter TypeElectricElectricSame

Capacities

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
Coolant8gal6.9gal▲ 8050+1.1 gal · +16%

Operator Station

SpecAllis Chalmers 8050New Holland TM165Difference
TypeAcousta CabCab—

Category context

Both models against the field

Engine Power

median 138 hp
A · 66th percentile (169 hp)B · 65th percentile (165 hp)

Engine Displacement

median 391 ci
A · 72nd percentile (426 ci)B · 80th percentile (456 ci)

Cylinders

median 6
A · 50th percentile (6)B · 50th percentile (6)

Forward Gears

median 16
A · 70th percentile (20)B · 61st percentile (18)

Operating Weight

median 12,307 lb
A · 68th percentile (15,305 lb)B · 61st percentile (13,845 lb)
A · 8050B · TM165Median Row Crop Tractor
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