Head to head · Industrial

Allis Chalmers HD16A vs John Deere 6165J

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Allis ChalmersModel A

Allis Chalmers HD16A

Industrial

power
163 hp
displacement
844 ci
Cylinders
6
Forward gears
6
Full HD16A specs
John Deere 6165J Tractor
John DeereModel B

John Deere 6165J

Utility

power
165 hp
displacement
414 ci
Cylinders
6
Forward gears
16
Full 6165J specs
Allis ChalmersAllis Chalmers HD16A
vs
John DeereJohn Deere 6165J

How they compare

Headline specs vs. the whole Industrial

n = 38–55

Engine Displacement

▲ HD16A higher · +430 ci (+104%)
HD16A844 ci
6165J414 ci
Median Industrial Tractor284 ci

HD16A is in the 86th percentile; 6165J is in the 62nd · 53 models

Cylinders

= Effectively tied
HD16A6
6165J6
Median Industrial Tractor4

HD16A is in the 88th percentile; 6165J is in the 88th · 55 models

Forward Gears

▲ 6165J higher · +10 (+167%)
HD16A6
6165J16
Median Industrial Tractor5

HD16A is in the 65th percentile; 6165J is in the 97th · 43 models

Operating Weight

▲ HD16A higher · +16,310 lb (+107%)
HD16A31,500 lb
6165J15,190 lb
Median Industrial Tractor9,127 lb

HD16A is in the 91st percentile; 6165J is in the 61st · 49 models

HD16A (A)6165J (B)Median Industrial Tractor

Full comparison

Every spec, side by side

General Information

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersJohn Deere—
ModelHD16A6165J—
CategoryIndustrialUtility—

Engine

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersJohn Deere—
Model1600006068 PowerTech—
Power Output163hp165hp▲ 6165J+2 hp · +1%
Rated RPM1,600RPM2,100RPM▲ 6165J+500 RPM · +31%
Cylinders66Same
Displacement844ci414ci▲ HD16A+430 ci · +104%
Bore5.3in4.2in▲ HD16A+1.1 in · +26%
Stroke6.5in5in▲ HD16A+1.5 in · +30%

Transmission

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
TypeGearPartial power shift—

Dimensions & Weight

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
Length181in213in▲ 6165J+32 in · +18%
Width96inNot recorded—
Height90.5in115in▲ 6165J+24.5 in · +27%
Operating Weight31,500lb15,190lb▲ HD16A+16,310 lb · +107%

Hydraulics

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
System TypeNot recordedClosed center pressure-flow compensated (PFC)—
Steering TypeHydraulicPower steering—

Hitch & Towing

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
Hitch CategoryNot recordedCategory 3—
Hitch PositionNot recordedRear—

Chassis & Drive

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
Chassis TypeNot recorded4x4 MFWD 4WD—
Drive TypeNot recorded4WD—
Steering TypeHydraulicPower steering—

Electrical

SpecAllis Chalmers HD16AJohn Deere 6165JDifference
Starter TypeElectric12-volt—

Category context

Both models against the field

Engine Displacement

median 284 ci
A · 86th percentile (844 ci)B · 62nd percentile (414 ci)

Cylinders

median 4
A · 88th percentile (6)B · 88th percentile (6)

Forward Gears

median 5
A · 65th percentile (6)B · 97th percentile (16)

Operating Weight

median 9,127 lb
A · 91st percentile (31,500 lb)B · 61st percentile (15,190 lb)

Length

median 125 in
A · 76th percentile (181 in)B · 94th percentile (213 in)
A · HD16AB · 6165JMedian Industrial Tractor
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