Head to head · Utility

Allis Chalmers 616 vs John Deere 650

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Allis ChalmersModel A

Allis Chalmers 616

Utility

power
16.5 hp
displacement
49.8 ci
Cylinders
2
Forward gears
Not recorded
Full 616 specs
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John DeereModel B

John Deere 650

Utility

power
17 hp
displacement
52.1 ci
Cylinders
2
Forward gears
8
Full 650 specs
Allis ChalmersAllis Chalmers 616
vs
John DeereJohn Deere 650

How they compare

Headline specs vs. the whole Utility

n = 3,933–5,720

Engine Power

▲ 650 higher · +0.5 hp (+3%)
61616.5 hp
65017 hp
Median Utility Tractor55 hp

616 is in the 4th percentile; 650 is in the 5th · 5,383 models

Engine Displacement

▲ 650 higher · +2.3 ci (+5%)
61649.8 ci
65052.1 ci
Median Utility Tractor183 ci

616 is in the 3rd percentile; 650 is in the 3rd · 5,580 models

Cylinders

= Effectively tied
6162
6502
Median Utility Tractor4

616 is in the 3rd percentile; 650 is in the 3rd · 5,720 models

Operating Weight

▲ 650 higher · +31 lb (+2%)
6161,499 lb
6501,530 lb
Median Utility Tractor5,303 lb

616 is in the 6th percentile; 650 is in the 6th · 5,107 models

616 (A)650 (B)Median Utility Tractor

Full comparison

Every spec, side by side

General Information

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
ManufacturerAllis ChalmersJohn Deere—
Model616650—
CategoryUtility, Sub-CompactUtility—

Engine

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
ManufacturerOnanYanmar—
ModelCCK2T80UJ—
Power Output16.5hp17hp▲ 650+0.5 hp · +3%
Rated RPMNot recorded2,600RPM—
Cylinders22Same
Displacement49.8ci52.1ci▲ 650+2.3 ci · +5%
Bore3.3in3.2in▲ 616+0.2 in · +6%
Stroke3in3.4in▲ 650+0.4 in · +13%

Transmission

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
TypeHydrostaticGear shift with dry disk clutch—

Dimensions & Weight

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
Length82.7in108in▲ 650+25.3 in · +31%
Width47.6in42.9in▲ 616+4.7 in · +11%
Height42.9in77.2in▲ 650+34.3 in · +80%
Operating Weight1,499lb1,530lb▲ 650+31 lb · +2%

Hydraulics

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
System TypeNot recordedOpen center—
Steering TypeNot recordedManual—

Power Take-off (PTO)

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
TypeNot recordedOptional Independent and Transmission Type with over-running clutch—
Speed 12,000rpm540rpm▲ 616+1,460 rpm · +270%

Hitch & Towing

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
Hitch TypeNot recordedThree-Point—
Hitch CategoryNot recordedI—
Hitch PositionNot recordedRear—

Chassis & Drive

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
Chassis Type4x2 2WD4x2 2WDSame
Drive Type2WD2WDSame
Steering TypeNot recordedManual—
Brake TypeNot recordedDifferential mechanical dry, internal expanding shoe—

Electrical

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
Starter TypeElectricElectricSame

Capacities

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
CoolantNot recorded1gal—

Operator Station

SpecAllis Chalmers 616John Deere 650Difference
TypeOpenOpen with two-post ROPS—

Category context

Both models against the field

Engine Power

median 55 hp
A · 4th percentile (16.5 hp)B · 5th percentile (17 hp)

Engine Displacement

median 183 ci
A · 3rd percentile (49.8 ci)B · 3rd percentile (52.1 ci)

Cylinders

median 4
A · 3rd percentile (2)B · 3rd percentile (2)

Operating Weight

median 5,303 lb
A · 6th percentile (1,499 lb)B · 6th percentile (1,530 lb)

Length

median 137 in
A · 3rd percentile (82.7 in)B · 14th percentile (108 in)
A · 616B · 650Median Utility Tractor
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